tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post6317526863809601420..comments2024-01-25T07:59:56.921-05:00Comments on A nice lady's adventures in the gentle art of jiu jitsu: Freedom, feminism, and racy photos – the controversy surrounding sexy grapplers future black belthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04432679081962279480noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-20667573678720281652013-09-19T22:38:50.089-04:002013-09-19T22:38:50.089-04:00Thank you! I liked your blog as well Thank you! I liked your blog as well future black belthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04432679081962279480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-83005496044333386082013-09-19T14:35:05.102-04:002013-09-19T14:35:05.102-04:00Hi Grappling Girl, I really liked this piece of yo...Hi Grappling Girl, I really liked this piece of yours and referenced it in a post I published yesterday. Just wanted to let you know! It's here: http://syd1138mma.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/hey-guys-no-one-blames-you-for-liking-those-kyra-gracie-pics/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-55039208962583612492013-09-08T08:12:05.819-04:002013-09-08T08:12:05.819-04:00I read this article recently, which said "eac...I read this article recently, which said "each time a female athlete is pictured in a sexualized way, it diminishes the perception of her athletic ability"<br /><a href="espn.go.com/espnw/w-in-action/nine-for-ix/article/9604247/espnw-nine-ix-sex-sells-female-athletes-trend-changing" rel="nofollow">Sex Sells? Female Athlete's Trend Changing</a>. I wrote about it here: <a href="http://jiujiubjj.com/women/bjj-and-women-talent-sells-not-sex/" rel="nofollow">Talent Sells, Not Sex</a>. <br /><br />This topic is a complex one for sure. <br /><br />I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Ukraine, and several sites had never had a PCV before. What that first volunteer did MATTERED. For example, a friend was the second volunteer the site had ever had. The first guy was totally incompetent - he couldn't feed himself, couldn't speak the language, couldn't do his laundry, etc. When my friend got there, they expected the same thing - and were absolutely shocked that she could cook, speak Ukrainian, do laundry, etc. She was self sufficient.<br /><br />I would often advise PCVs to choose their battles carefully because what they do now would affect future volunteers' experiences. <br /><br />I think the same for women in grappling. <br /><br />I also wonder about setting precedence - at what point do our actions set precedence. How many times does it take a woman to not spar for no women to be expected to spar, or conversely, be expected NOT to spar? <br /><br />Black belt women are, by default, role models within our community and need to understand that their actions ABSOLUTELY have ramifications/influence/affects on the BJJ community and women in our community. It may suck, but that's the reality. There is a dearth of women black belts in our sport, and they are, willingly or not, people that women and girls are going to be looking to and looking up to. They are automatically more in the spotlight than other women in our sport.Jiu Jiuhttp://jiujiubjj.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-57346229542612809312013-09-07T05:07:31.283-04:002013-09-07T05:07:31.283-04:00I like this article. I agree with you.
However i...I like this article. I agree with you. <br /><br />However in the comment made by Holli, it seems to suggest that publicity for Kyra as she is an athlete and compared to with Lolo, Danica and Maria. Which I find, completely disregarded your analysis on the responsibility to the "outgroup" - the rest of the girls in jiujitsu. <br /><br />The examples given are from a completely different sport which bears no close contact to the opposite sex while training. Maybe Gina Carano / Ronda Rousey could be better examples. But even then, the same responsibility applies to them.<br /><br />No one is questioning the credibility of female athletes when it comes to posing provocatively, but whether or not it impacts how one perceives another female training on the mats, especially with so much of close contact.<br /><br />Again, the debate is whether it's a group responsibility or personal freedom. Either way, women in jiujitsu just want to respected as a training partner to men (&other women) on the mats without any sexual intentions and to be recognised for the skills that we have acquired, not for how we look. suriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13227339277519133253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-26065129950385891332013-09-06T22:28:57.510-04:002013-09-06T22:28:57.510-04:00I disagree. As a female in BJJ for the past 4 yea...I disagree. As a female in BJJ for the past 4 years, I consider the sport as only ONE dimension of me. I am strong, but also feminine. As for Kyra, she is a career athlete, and photos like this do not only show the public the feminine side of her personality, but yes... also are important for publicity. Point in case: Lolo Jones, Danica Patrick, Maria Sharapova, Anna Kournikova, and others. In Brazil (& most other countries), this type of photo is not considered the least bit controversial... only in the USA, where our culture is more sexually uptight. Most men can look at a woman in a potato sack, and still find something sexual in the image. For heaven's sake... it's how they are wired! I do not think that these photos do anything to harm the credibility of females in the sport any more than provacative photos I've seen of Anderson Silva, Rafael Nadal, and other male athletes, albeit nice to look at, change my perception of them as athletes. My 2 cents. :)Hollihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320569857810944338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-84998303500959874822013-09-06T19:36:38.548-04:002013-09-06T19:36:38.548-04:00The problem I have is with men who interpret these...The problem I have is with men who interpret these kinds of things to mean that all of us want to be noticed in a sexual way. Not with Kyra Gracie or any other women who poses for a provocative photo. I think we have to place the blame on the right people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-33776463436242224092013-09-06T14:26:15.705-04:002013-09-06T14:26:15.705-04:00Great article, Grappling Girl! I wish more women r...Great article, Grappling Girl! I wish more women remembered that if they dress provocatively men will think of them in a provocative way. It's hardwired into us! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-57039914703679872552013-09-06T12:48:34.454-04:002013-09-06T12:48:34.454-04:00"...especially from a woman."? Congratul..."...especially from a woman."? Congratulations, Grappling Girl, your feeble female mind managed to express a few thoughts coherently enough to impress Ngoc-Tri-Joseph Huynh. You can die a happy girl now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-57394882040195003892013-09-06T11:29:58.052-04:002013-09-06T11:29:58.052-04:00So beautiful and so insightful, especially from a ...So beautiful and so insightful, especially from a woman. Bravo. Thank you for sharing this perspective. Martial arts are not just some mechanical technics or physical strength, it is also about love, virtue, respect, courage, peace, harmony, simplicity, authenticity, human, excellence, etc. When people look at your ''ART'', what do they see ? Like other martial arts, jiu-jitsu is an awesome art, it is up to the masters and practitioners to live up to the high standard of the ''ART'' and its legacy...as true martial artists, so the society might be a better place. Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11866872104531325052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-66564537487163007292013-09-06T10:28:33.928-04:002013-09-06T10:28:33.928-04:00I am a man, and I believe you are 100% correct wit...I am a man, and I believe you are 100% correct with your viewpoint. I am not a sexist male who suffers from what I call, "MANtality". It's a shame how most men see women today, but then again lots of women ask for it by the way they dress and carry themselves, and also the way the male is being raised these days. I blame advertising and other men! Women think advertising and society tells them what a woman is supposed to look like! I say balderdash! Ladies, you are beautiful just the way you are...ALL NATURAL! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00965643981772864204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584799702351316273.post-80182808790796708522013-09-06T09:31:18.053-04:002013-09-06T09:31:18.053-04:00Awesome article!! Good analysis!! Awesome article!! Good analysis!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com